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There is nothing special about the Troubled Engineer's setup. It's mostly a matter of using open platforms. With Firefox on the desktop and Fennec on Android (Graphene), you get full uBlock Origin support and therefore never see any ads anywhere, even on Youtube. On Android, there is also NewPipe that offers "free Youtube Premium" (play in the background and download).

I also use DNS based filtering since I run my own Unbound instance, but it isn't really necessary with the above setup. It may be useful if you must absolutely have a smart TV or other such appliances, but considering that they have cameras and microphones, I will never connect such a device to the Internet anyway.





Same. Firefox works well on mobile and allows uBlock Origin (in my experience NewPipe is fragile).

"(in my experience NewPipe is fragile)"

Thanks for the corroboration. I once got downvoted when I mentioned this

IME, the SoundCloud mode is less fragile


How are you not seeing any ads with that setup? I just read your comment and saw multiple ads!

No those are (most provably) unpaid recommendations. Those are not the same as ads, because there is no economic insentive, and is strictly not ads.

It would be so easy to place ads based on page contents and not based on retargeting. It would be such a breath of fresh air. You wouldn't need to know anything about the person visiting the page. You can still do programmatic ads with competitive bidding. And even according to Double click study, you would make about fifty five percent (iirc) of what you would make with all this invasive tracking.

It would be a win win for everyone.


In an alternate reality where tracking was 100% illegal all the time, would the ad revenue come closer to say 90%, with perhaps 10% choosing another medium altogether? These studies by ad companies seem to always presume their own perfect world where everything else remains just as it is.

Mostly, although some text analysis would need to be done to prevent this:

    (people commenting about how a bad design choice in ACorp's flagship product AProduct led to the tragic death of ten labradoodle puppies.)

    AD: Buy two AProduct, get one free — limited time offer! Woof! ACorp — your pup will love it!

You mean, like how Google ads were back in the beginning?

An ad doesn't have to be paid for to be an ad.

Likewise, mentioning a product is not de facto an ad.

Sometimes you can even get your gullible users to spread those “not ads” for you!

Sent from my iPhone


Just to throw one on the pile https://github.com/yuliskov/smarttube for android based TV media box is great.

Be careful with this one, it was recently compromised: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46103657

The latest versions 30.56 and onwards are fixed.

Android FF allows background play in desktop mode.

There is an extension you can download which can enable background play without dekstop mode too. I forgot its name but I thought it was relevant to the discussion and maybe someone can help find it.


I use close to that setup, but with the (now defunct) Kiwi Browser with Magnolia's BPC, FBP for Facebook and uBlock Origin. Works pretty well.

How about ads inside apps on android? I used to have AdGuard dns configured but somehow was still seeing ads in some games. I guess they were self hosting ads or had the DNS server hard coded in the app…

I use brave in android but I have used firefox on android too, firefox actually still supports old devices which is nice

Heck I have ran modern firefox on tinycore on my 32 bit 1 gig ram mini dell laptop lol




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